faekin

Recently my faekin discord removed a user. I am not going to link to their callout post, nor reveal their name or contact details because I do not want to escalate the situation even further, nor do I want to boost the signal of their own post. Ultimately the booting was not because of the views they had, but of the demands they made of the person that eventually booted them, and if that person wants to comment I will allow them to reblog/respond to this post about it. Debate about these matters is definitely permitted on the server.

I will instead talk about the crux of the argument that took place, which is going to be mostly about Celtic cultural erasure, about spirit animal bonds, and in general about the ethics of a culture claiming a spiritual concept as exclusively their own. I will also disclose immediately that I am of over 80% celtic blood and very involved with my culture as well.

The subject of spirit animals and spirit animal bonds is a touchy subject for me because the Celtic practice and relationship with animal spirits has been practically erased from history to the point where we are not even allowed to talk about it for fear of backlash. I usually just let this go on Tumblr because I know I can’t fight the tide, but the fact is, brace your triggers please, Celtic Animism was and is a real thing.

The Celtic people recognized the spiritual nature, of nature and revered it. The druids represent the pinnacle of this practice and belief system, the study and practice of natural magic and communion with the spirits. Whether or not they could actually transform into their spirit animals is left up to the readers’ opinion, but the Druids were effectively the spiritual leaders of our overall belief system common to the Celtic people.

We worshipped the Old Gods. Not Zeus and the Greek/Roman gods, those were the gods of our oppressors. Not YHVH and the Elohimic, those were the divinities of those who came to erase our culture. To us, their gods were newbs. I speak of ones like Cernunnos, Annwn, Phliedas (I hope I spelt your name right), ones that were around before anyone put a pen down to write the book of Genesis. And our ways were a walk with nature, and with the Fae, the fae were as real to the Celts as the Sun and stars and elements, as nature itself, as any living thing or being around us.

I still walk with those gods. And I walk with them knowing who and what I am and who and what is around me and who and what is part of me.

And we had spirit animals, and we still do. This might be hard to hear in the world of Tumblr and the politics of appropriation and what is considered the acceptable narrative here, but every time I hear that narrative that spirit animals belong exclusively to another culture, it makes me want to claw my own eyes out.

When someone asserts that things that are part of my culture can no longer be accessed by me because it is theirs now, I feel that this is wrong. It is specifically offensive to Celts who have been working with and having bonds with animal spirits since before Christ was squeezed out.

Neither I, or any other Celtic person, nor anyone else that I can think of, is denying anyone of any other culture, their relationship with nature and with its spirits. But when the inverse becomes true ad I am told that I have “guides” and not “animal spirits” even though my experiences are directly contrary to this (I will only get specific if asked), then I feel that my own culture is being disrespected, and being erased due to another culture denying part of my own to claim it as their own.

Telling us Celts that we do not have spirit animals pisses on the graves and funeral pyres of every single one of us that did, it attempts to invalidate the practice of Druidry and Celtic Animism in its entirety, it pisses all over the beliefs of the Celtic people tracing back, not just past the time of Christ but before the time of the Elohimic era, and reaching towards the beginning of the Holocene era itself.

I did not do that to this person that is “calling me out”. They did this to me. I let it go unanswered on Tumblr because I cannot fight the tide of the acceptable narrative about it, but in my own space, I cannot let it stand. And every one of you who allow this narrative to continue have contributed your parts in erasing Druidry and Celtic culture. We have never asked anyone else to give up this part of their culture for our sake, but we should not be asked to either.

The person calling me out tried to start a conversation about who’s culture was more abused and violated, who’s culture was violated for longer, and other such arguments, and then complained about feeling triggered and unsafe when the debate was not going their way. But me, I didn’t WANT this. I didn’t want to have a culture war take place on my server. I merely wanted him to meet my culture half way on a cultural aspect we shared. We could have shared our experiences about it, and discovered what was different and the same between our experiences, and understood our cultures better. This is what I wanted.

I believe that this is all I can say about the matter, and I have wrote this mostly so that the accusations made will not stand alone and people can understand why I have been hurt by the things that were said to me and the total disregard for my own Celtic culture or the things we suffered through over the last 2000 years. I want to use this in conclusion to invite other faekin to my server and the link will follow, but I would indeed suggest that if you are one of those who believe that some cultures have the right to claim exclusive right to spiritual and magickal ideas to the exclusion of other cultures that share those ideas, that this server may not be right for you.

http://discord.gg/3DmDBzh

I just want to say something about this, particularly about the callout post that keeps rolling around. You’re being lied to and conversation about it which disagrees with the aggressor’s narrative is being silenced. Most of what has been written about it by him is entirely false.

I am not going to feed the aggresssor/troll by publically discussing this particular drama, but if you think for yourself and have any interest in my side of the issue and what really happened? You can direct message, send an ask, or hop on the discord server to talk to me/us about it.

Otherwise, for me, this matter is going away.

OH! And here’s the server link again. At least i’m getting a reason to post it, right?

http://discord.gg/3DmDBzh

May

2018

marzipanandminutiae:

marzipanandminutiae:

HAPPY BELTAINE

SET SHIT ON FIRE AND SMASH THE PATRIARCHY BECAUSE IT’S SPRING MOTHERFUCKERS

DANCE WITH THE FEY

(dancing with the fey is discouraged by 9/10 doctors. the 10th may have goat feet; we can’t quite tell)

bringing this back because IT’S BELTAINE AGAIN YA GOOBERS

Dance with the fae! What could go wrong? *wingflutters*

May

2018

Recently my faekin discord removed a user. I am not going to link to their callout post, nor reveal their name or contact details because I do not want to escalate the situation even further, nor do I want to boost the signal of their own post. Ultimately the booting was not because of the views they had, but of the demands they made of the person that eventually booted them, and if that person wants to comment I will allow them to reblog/respond to this post about it. Debate about these matters is definitely permitted on the server.

I will instead talk about the crux of the argument that took place, which is going to be mostly about Celtic cultural erasure, about spirit animal bonds, and in general about the ethics of a culture claiming a spiritual concept as exclusively their own. I will also disclose immediately that I am of over 80% celtic blood and very involved with my culture as well.

The subject of spirit animals and spirit animal bonds is a touchy subject for me because the Celtic practice and relationship with animal spirits has been practically erased from history to the point where we are not even allowed to talk about it for fear of backlash. I usually just let this go on Tumblr because I know I can’t fight the tide, but the fact is, brace your triggers please, Celtic Animism was and is a real thing.

The Celtic people recognized the spiritual nature, of nature and revered it. The druids represent the pinnacle of this practice and belief system, the study and practice of natural magic and communion with the spirits. Whether or not they could actually transform into their spirit animals is left up to the readers’ opinion, but the Druids were effectively the spiritual leaders of our overall belief system common to the Celtic people.

We worshipped the Old Gods. Not Zeus and the Greek/Roman gods, those were the gods of our oppressors. Not YHVH and the Elohimic, those were the divinities of those who came to erase our culture. To us, their gods were newbs. I speak of ones like Cernunnos, Annwn, Phliedas (I hope I spelt your name right), ones that were around before anyone put a pen down to write the book of Genesis. And our ways were a walk with nature, and with the Fae, the fae were as real to the Celts as the Sun and stars and elements, as nature itself, as any living thing or being around us.

I still walk with those gods. And I walk with them knowing who and what I am and who and what is around me and who and what is part of me.

And we had spirit animals, and we still do. This might be hard to hear in the world of Tumblr and the politics of appropriation and what is considered the acceptable narrative here, but every time I hear that narrative that spirit animals belong exclusively to another culture, it makes me want to claw my own eyes out.

When someone asserts that things that are part of my culture can no longer be accessed by me because it is theirs now, I feel that this is wrong. It is specifically offensive to Celts who have been working with and having bonds with animal spirits since before Christ was squeezed out.

Neither I, or any other Celtic person, nor anyone else that I can think of, is denying anyone of any other culture, their relationship with nature and with its spirits. But when the inverse becomes true ad I am told that I have “guides” and not “animal spirits” even though my experiences are directly contrary to this (I will only get specific if asked), then I feel that my own culture is being disrespected, and being erased due to another culture denying part of my own to claim it as their own.

Telling us Celts that we do not have spirit animals pisses on the graves and funeral pyres of every single one of us that did, it attempts to invalidate the practice of Druidry and Celtic Animism in its entirety, it pisses all over the beliefs of the Celtic people tracing back, not just past the time of Christ but before the time of the Elohimic era, and reaching towards the beginning of the Holocene era itself.

I did not do that to this person that is “calling me out”. They did this to me. I let it go unanswered on Tumblr because I cannot fight the tide of the acceptable narrative about it, but in my own space, I cannot let it stand. And every one of you who allow this narrative to continue have contributed your parts in erasing Druidry and Celtic culture. We have never asked anyone else to give up this part of their culture for our sake, but we should not be asked to either.

The person calling me out tried to start a conversation about who’s culture was more abused and violated, who’s culture was violated for longer, and other such arguments, and then complained about feeling triggered and unsafe when the debate was not going their way. But me, I didn’t WANT this. I didn’t want to have a culture war take place on my server. I merely wanted him to meet my culture half way on a cultural aspect we shared. We could have shared our experiences about it, and discovered what was different and the same between our experiences, and understood our cultures better. This is what I wanted.

I believe that this is all I can say about the matter, and I have wrote this mostly so that the accusations made will not stand alone and people can understand why I have been hurt by the things that were said to me and the total disregard for my own Celtic culture or the things we suffered through over the last 2000 years. I want to use this in conclusion to invite other faekin to my server and the link will follow, but I would indeed suggest that if you are one of those who believe that some cultures have the right to claim exclusive right to spiritual and magickal ideas to the exclusion of other cultures that share those ideas, that this server may not be right for you.

http://discord.gg/3DmDBzh

Mar

2018

I’ve walked into fairy circles but nothing ever happened… Is America just not magical enough?

wolvesdreamofnewdays:

jimintomystery:

thebibliosphere:

frei-rancken:

thebibliosphere:

Y’all got different things that go bump in the night over here. Like bears and moose and shit. If I was a fairy that got immigrated over here in mass flittings I’d stay in the other realm too. Fucking moose. Jesus Christ, have you seen those things up close? Fuck that.

Y’all have terrifying endless corn plane there too… So… I think you are even.

I’ve never experienced claustrophobia and agoraphobia simultaneously until we had to drive through 400 miles of endless corn occasionally interjected by great swaths of nothingness.

The fae realm might be the believable terror of things back home with our forests and iron age burial mounds jutting above ground but the US has it’s own eldritch terrifying charms.

Usually Tumblr has this aesthetic going where they act all terrified of fairies, so this post has me like yeeeahh

Come get us, you little bastards

What’s the matter? I’m right here

Meet me at this totally legit barn if you want to steal some babies or smth

@seananmcguire

Fae, at least when manifesting in the mortal realm, usually adapt to the environs of that realm, much like any living creature. Take for example, the barn above. There are faeries. Same for the corn fields. You will get lost in a corn field no matter how you orient yourself against the sun.

I was raised around barns and cornfields like those for the better part of my young mortal life, and can assure you that we are in all of the places above. The fae of America are not fundamentally different from those in other parts, but they do adapt to the environment and culture in which they reside.

Also, there are functional and legit faerie rings in America and other places in the world, but not all rings of mushrooms/rocks/flowers are faerie rings. In some places there are many fae but none use faerie rings as a gate. Also faerie rings are not the exclusive way to pass into the other realm (the fae around the Shasta Cascades in California FAR prefer cave systems for example). Faerie rings are actually mostly a forest fae thing. The greatest concentration of forest fae I know of in America is in Tall Timbers in Central Pennsylvania, but I also have not been everywhere. Keep your ears and eyes open. I will give you some hints.

Abandoned barns. If its just filled with hay and old lofts and rafters, enter freely without fear. Whatever fae are there will be ok, if not welcome to your presence.
If it is filled with old butchering tools or lots of chains, sharp items or implements, close the door and go away.
If you open the door and more than 50 mice or rats scurry away as you open the door, conduct your business and leave.
Corn fields, or any fields where the plants are taller than you: Expect to get lost. If you want to get lost, enter it. You may not return from the corn field but you won’t necessarily die in there either.
If you want to explore and not get lost, bring a phone with a GPS. Bring extra batteries. Your phone will discharge faster in there. Just warning you.
Native American sacred sites: I am not going to engage the argument of whether or not their spirits are a type of fae or not, I have my own opinions and others have others. All I will say is the first time you disrespect them or their lands, they warn you. The second time, they kill you.
Deep forests: For the most part, follow European protocols.
The coastlines: You’ve probably heard about lamia and merfolk off the coasts of Cape Cod, the Hamonesset and off the coasts of California, but they also hang around other places not commonly mentioned, such as off the coast of Brunswick, GA, Virginia, and any place with a good concentration of sea-caves and coves. Not so much for the coast of New Jersey, or any other coasts where the mortal populations are too high or mortals have just trashed the place with garbage.
Florida: The greatest concentration of Unseelie I know of in the US is in the Everglades. If you want to meet fae and don’t mind dying to do so, try the Everglades. The rest of the state is mostly seafaring fae.
Mountains: They’re relatively safe, pixies and sprites, and phouka, especially if the area is both high up in altitude and also wooded or forested.
California. While you can find fae anywhere, the more north you go, the more fae you see. San Francisco has more fae than Los Angeles. The highest concentrations of fae in California are in the Shasta Cascades, you will find as many there as most places in Europe excluding Ireland.
Wildlife preserves: Unicorns love these places, in fact in some cases, places are wildlife preserves BECAUSE of unicorn influence.
Colorado: It would be biased of me to speak too much about Colorado because I live here, I will just leave it at, yeah we’re present, and types of fae are pretty evenly distributed, tho more mountain preferring ones than others.

This got longer than I intended it to be, but there, feel free to use it as a guide.

Mar

2018

mogai-watch:

anti-kin-cringe:

anti-kin-cringe:

transmedical-boy:

elevengrackles:

antikinnies-are-the-real-cringe:

transmedical-boy:

antikinnies-are-the-real-cringe:

transmedical-boy:

antikinnies-are-the-real-cringe:

transmedical-boy:

Ew I touched shit

*cough* op’s entire blog *cough*

Real original. Now, question. Why did you tag your reblog with all your transmed tags? It has nothing to do with the topic and it won’t show up in the search results.

-A Curious Mod Lazarus

Kinnies claim they’re trans all the time my dude

Therefore it’s related

…I regret to inform you that you have been speaking to trolls. No legitimate otherkin believe they are trans because of their otherkinity.

-Mod Lazarus

Why do mogais and kinnies always cover their ears and go “it’s a troll” when confronted with how ridiculous some of their community gets

Because it’s a troll?? You’re just really bad at identifying trolls my dude.

-Mod Lazarus

@transmedical-boy

Cite your sources. 😀

Here ya go boo

please oh lord deliver grim from this amateur’s vast naivety.

– Grim

@transmedical-boy

I’d give you a slow clap for how much of an absolute idiot you are, but I don’t want to make you feel as though you’re being belittled.

So– let me get this all straight.

You think a well-known troll blog that posts pride flags for terms like sapiosexual and metrosexual and made up terms like “frustrosexual” is, for lack of a better term, valid. You 100% support this blog and its posts as entirely real, true, and legitimate. From spectrosexual (wanting to fuck ghosts) to Nyctosexual (wanting to fuck the dark, as in, the actual lack of light) to Ecogender (your gender is somehow reflective of your local ecology, you think those are all genuine LGBT identities or LGBT identities proposed and created in 100% complete seriousness, with no ulterior motive.

You also pretty heavily focus on “kingender,” something which has been debunked as having no basis in the both the otherkin community nor LGBT community. This has been known as a farce by the greater otherkin community for literal years and I’d hope that anyone with a brain larger than a pea could be able to figure out that .

So because you’re a gullible moron who can’t be bothered to do any actual research into a community, you want to say that all otherkin are trans or consider themselves trans because they’re otherkin or some other horseshit.

That sound about right? Sweet, now, let’s go over where you went wrong in your commentary and criticism.

First off: plenty of otherkin are trans. Now, here’s a lesson in being trans! Since I clearly need to lay this out for you, because you somehow don’t already know this already–despite claiming to be trans yourself. If someone is trans….that says virtually nothing else about them beyond the fact that they’re trans. it means they probably experience dysphoria and that they may or may not be in the process of transitioning. But beyond that? Zip. Zero. Nada. If someone happens to be otherkin and trans, that does not mean that somehow, specifically for that person and that person alone who calls themself trans, that those identities intercept in any way. It doesn’t mean that the person calls themself trans because they’re otherkin. Much in the same way that the fact that you have the critical thinking skills of a 13 year old doesn’t have any relation to you being trans. Is it a part of your identitiy? Sure. Is your inability to think your way out of a paper bag what defines you as trans? Probably not.

Second: If you looked at the greater otherkin community and even just, oh, I don’t know, the basic definition of the word “otherkin” in the first place, you’d easily realize that otherkinity has no inherent relationship to gender. Nor sexuality. Nor romantic attraction. Nor whatever the hell else the kids are talking about these days, since I can’t be bothered to keep up with that crap closely. Anyone who claims otherwise is talking out their ass, a language I’m sure you’re proficient in.

Third: As someone who is trans and also otherkin, let me be the first–though undoubtedly not the last–to inform you that you’re not only wrong, but you’re also fucking stupid. Have you ever experienced dysphoria, by any chance? It’s one hell of a bitch to deal with, and with the way you can just completely ignore and dismiss my dysphoria and others in attempting to claim our identities manifest in different (and impossible) ways than they actually do….well, I just have to wonder how much of a transmed you actually are. I just have to raise an eyebrow at someone who claims to be transmedical and then goes on to tell people with dysphoria that their dysphoria isn’t the actual reason they’re trans.

-Mod Halcyon

I’m sorry, but those are definitely not troll blogs. I wish they were. A lot of my otherkin followers wish they were. But they are 100% not. They’re basically two cornerstones of the modern MOGAI movement. And it’s not the fault of @transmedical-boy that those sites so badly misrepresent both what it is to be trans and what it is to be otherkin. You don’t need to nastily spell out what being trans is or what otherkinism is supposed to be. We all know. The point is, these blogs don’t care what the actual meaning of any word is–they delight in playing fast and loose with objective reality.

“You think a well-known troll blog that posts pride flags for terms like sapiosexual and metrosexual and made up terms like “frustrosexual” is, for lack of a better term, valid. You 100% support this blog and its posts as entirely real, true, and legitimate. From spectrosexual (wanting to fuck ghosts) to Nyctosexual (wanting to fuck the dark, as in, the actual lack of light) to Ecogender (your gender is somehow reflective of your local ecology, you think those are all genuine LGBT identities or LGBT identities proposed and created in 100% complete seriousness, with no ulterior motive.”

Way to misrepresent what’s being said here. THey aren’t supporting MOGAI. They aren’t saying the terms are real, true, or legit. They’re saying that there are people who think these things. Those people are wrong, but they exist, and they are really harming both the otherkin and LGBT communities.

If you want to keep insisting that these aren’t trolls, you need a better argument than “well, their words are stupid and the otherkin community at large doesn’t accept kingender as legit.” A lot of the LGBT community doesn’t accept MOGAI as legit, either, but that doesn’t make them any less sincere in their promotion of dumb genders and sexualities. Wishing something to not be serious doesn’t change the fact that it is. Give me hard evidence that these people are trolls.

Some of those blogs are troll blogs. Some of them are tumblrkin who think this is what otherkin is, as taught by the troll blogs, some may be exploring their identity but thanks to the narrative on this site, don’t know any better..

But all of them have one thing in common. They are all wrong. None of them represent what otherkin is. Real otherkin do not Approve Their Message. You can get on their case all you want for all I care, but do not equate otherkin to their message. There are no designer pronouns here.

Mar

2018

anti-kin-cringe:

transmedical-boy:

elevengrackles:

antikinnies-are-the-real-cringe:

transmedical-boy:

antikinnies-are-the-real-cringe:

transmedical-boy:

antikinnies-are-the-real-cringe:

transmedical-boy:

Ew I touched shit

*cough* op’s entire blog *cough*

Real original. Now, question. Why did you tag your reblog with all your transmed tags? It has nothing to do with the topic and it won’t show up in the search results.

-A Curious Mod Lazarus

Kinnies claim they’re trans all the time my dude

Therefore it’s related

…I regret to inform you that you have been speaking to trolls. No legitimate otherkin believe they are trans because of their otherkinity.

-Mod Lazarus

Why do mogais and kinnies always cover their ears and go “it’s a troll” when confronted with how ridiculous some of their community gets

Because it’s a troll?? You’re just really bad at identifying trolls my dude.

-Mod Lazarus

@transmedical-boy

Cite your sources. 😀

Here ya go boo

please oh lord deliver grim from this amateur’s vast naivety.

– Grim

@anti-kin-cringe @transmedical-boy @antikinnies-are-the-real-cringe

No True Kin places Any Stock in the Gender Conflations with Otherkin thus Specified Above.

I do believe that many tumblrkin do conflate gender and kinness but this is because they have learned about otherkin from troll blogs.

People who do this have no idea what otherkin really is. I would like to inform all that otherkin predates all these gender and orientation politics. It was NOT born on tumblr. It was born long before Tumblr was. Some people are trans and otherkin, but one is not directly connected to the other. You can be trans without being otherkin and be otherkin without being trans. Its not very hard to get.

Every time the two are conflated it damages the legitimacy of both as a concept, and the people who are doing it are either trolls or tumblrkin or trenderkin that do not know any better.

Mar

2018

redroadtoadventure:

bigredcyclops:

probablymetarpgideas:

officialpajamaelf:

officialpajamaelf:

i am very adamant that elves are far less restrictive about gender and relationships than humans

this post cost me a follower. good. reblog for non-binary polyamorous elves. ignore for cisheteronormativity.

did someone say polyamorous?

Elves live far too long to give a shit about anything other than having a good time.

Yes, that is more than implied in a few of Ed Greenwood’s early Forgotten Realms novels, back in the AD&D 2e days when the setting was first introduced.

And WoTC agrees on the gender according to Mordenkain.

Most fae are poly, actually, and particularly the ones that can shapeshift, have very loose ideas about gender in general. In fact we don’t really have a specific word of polyamory, we kind of just borrow the mortal word, since we don’t normally need such a word. Also the word for monogamy translates to “one-loving” in mortal speak.

Mar

2018

Deer area. Been allowing myself to shapeshift a little more lately, and play in different forms.

Mar

2018

Itsa me, a BBV <3

Mar

2018

Could you tell us about the court you were in?

Ok the court I was in, and still are in, is the Nature court. It’s also been called the Beast court, but that usage is anthrocentric and somewhat inaccurate as we include plant fae, among other types.

Most of the fae that are part of the nature court are ‘nature’ types such as phouka, lamia, sylphs and dryads, satyrs, pixies, and the like. Some kinds of merfolk especially the very fae oriented Selkies are often part. A general rule of thumb would be that the less humanoid a faerie is, the more likely they are to be of the nature court. But please do not do what human mythos has done and presume that ‘rules of thumb’ equal ‘ironclad rules that will apply everywhere’. These stereotypes have tried to define us in a way that is now misapplied widespread on Earth. Fact is that there have been elves in the nature court, phouka in other courts, and so on.

The fae that are part of the nature court are usually tied to nature in some way, athough, whether by choice, nature or instinct. When there is court, it usually occurs in a forest, near high natural energies. There is no requirement for it to be held in a castle, though it is an option to set up some kind of permanent settlement. Most of the time i’ve participated in Court its been just a bunch of rocks set up in a circle marking ‘where it was happening’. Usually we don’t do castles, if theres a permanent settlement it will be part of the natural setting. My preference has always been for canopies of trees that obscured the sky.. for others it could be quite different.

Usually nature courts handle affairs of nature amongst fae. Back before the holocene era, it used to be mostly about territory disputes and natural balance issues, but things changed alot when humans came out of the trees. I’ll wait for a specific ask about that before getting into that or else this post might get too long. But just for a little bit of an explanation, it is true that fae are sill all around us, but for reasons having to do with the energy of many places becoming corrupted, they are less in some places than others.

As for relationships with other courts, one should first point out that the terms ‘seelie’ and ‘unseelie’ are umbrellas mortals tend to put us under, but amongst fae the distinctions are not so hard cut. There are countless courts these days, some as small as the fae in your backyard and some so large they span galaxies. Still the base concepts have some validity, in that fae who are “Seelie” tend to be associated with light and summer. They also derive the ‘right to rule’ from the birthlines of those who have always ruled, and are the most hardcore about court loyalty. The “Unseelie” associate with dark and winter, derive the right to rule from the one strongest enough to take it, but are actually less hardcore about court loyalty.

These are given just to contrast with Nature court. Nature court tends to associate with spring or autumn, depending on the particular court, most nature courts are active mostly during those seasons. We generally like twilight, because that’s when the hunting is best. Also full moons. Bright nights, for the same reasons really. We believe the right to rule should be given to the ones who can do it the best. And as for court loyalty, we are pretty loose about it and its somewhat common for nature fae to be part of another court as well.

In general, we kind of lean more towards the Unseelie side than Seelie. Why? Because you can’t trust Seelie. With the Unseelie, if one wants to kill you, you’ll see their weapons or fangs out, their intent is clear, and that is kind of how Nature rolls too. If a Seelie wants you dead, you will die never knowing how or why. The last thoughts in your head will probably be “Wonder who I pissed off..”

I guess to conclude, i’ll just say that while the Seelie and Unseelie oriented fae do not have a direct aversion to having us ‘animals’ in their courts, there’s certainly reasons that you don’t often see us there, often time Nature’s issues just aren’t covered in their list of concerns, so thats the main reasons we are our own Court.